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New York Accountancy Reform and You

Submitted by Melissa Lajara on Mon, 02/23/2009 - 15:22
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Accountancy reform has officially come to New York state.

The new law, signed by Gov. David A. Paterson on Jan. 27, makes sweeping changes to the state's regulations for the accounting profession, including bringing a larger number of CPAs under the state's regulatory structure and requiring CPAs working in industry to complete continuing professional education courses.

The bill also authorizes CPAs from states with similar licensure requirements to New York to provide attest and compilation services in New York through a temporary practice permit, allowing for cross-border practice. Finally, the bill requires that all CPA firms register with the State Education Department.

A special issue of The Trusted Professional includes details on what CPAs can expect from the long-awaited legislation.

The scope of the profession will now include management advisory, financial advisory and tax preparation services, bringing all New York state CPAs under state regulatory oversight, including CPAs in industry, government and academia.

NYSSCPA President Sharon Sabba Fierstein cited in a Society press release the importance of the legislation’s passage in strengthening the quality of audit services provided by CPA firms.

“The serious problems uncovered at publicly traded companies such as Enron and Worldcom, and more recently the financial giants, Bear Stearns and Lehman Brothers, underscore the importance of CPAs’ audit services to the investing public," Fierstein said. "Similarly, the Roslyn School District fraud in 2004, which was in excess of $11 million, is a further example of the importance of high quality governmental audits to protect the interest of New York taxpayers.”

This groundbreaking legislation will also:

* Mandate that all CPAs, including those who are not in public practice, complete continuing professional education (an exemption statement may be filed with the SED by CPAs who do not engage in any services within the expanded scope of practice);
* Require all New York state CPA firms to register and those that provide attest services will have to undergo peer review every three years (exempting sole proprietors and firms with two or fewer accounting professionals, except if they perform state or municipal governmental audits); and
* Enable out-of-state CPAs to practice attest and compilation services in New York through temporary practice permits for attest and compilation services and may be issued to out-of-state CPAs for up to 180 days in a 12-month period from the date the permit is issued, as long as the CPA’s home state has licensure requirements significantly comparable to New York’s. For non-attest services, no permit will be required for an out-of-state CPA in good standing in his or her state of licensure

The bill was cosponsored in the Senate by Sen. Kenneth P. LaValle (R-Suffolk) and Toby Ann Stavisky (D-Queens); and in the Assembly by Assemblymember Deborah J. Glick (D-Manhattan).

Wondering what the Accountancy Reform Bill has in store for you? Don't worry: some answers have arrived. More will come with time.

The NYSSPCA hosted a presentation to explain the impacts of the reform law. You can view the webcast below. 

Webcast on the Accountancy Reform Law

In addition, the Office of the Professions at the New York State Education Department also has now posted information and a Q&A on its Web site.

Here's a snapshot of some of the most frequently asked questions (and answers):

  • When does the new law take effect? On July 26, 2009. However, changes in CPE requirements took effect Jan. 1. Mandatory quality review provisions kick in Jan. 1, 2012. 
  • Who has to register under the new requirements? As of the July date, all licensed CPAs and public accountants will need to register with the SED unless they file a request for inactive status certifying that the individual is not practicing public accountancy or using the title.
  • But what if I'm officially retired and prepare a few tax returns for family members? If you sign the return as preparer, you must register.
  • What exactly are the CPE requirements? A registered CPA or public accountant must complete with 40 hours of general studies or 24 hours of concentrated study in one recognized area of study during each calendar reporting year. Four hours of professional ethics CPE must be completed during the triennial registration period. In some cases, those four hours are applicable to the 24 or 40 hour requirement.

You can read the complete question and answer document here.

Questions about the new law may be e-mailed to the NYSSCPA at newlaw@nysscpa.org.


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Licensure Requirements

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 04/27/2009 - 16:40.

Does this new Statute affect the experience requirements that are needed to obtain a license after an individual has passed the exam?

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CPE requirements/new dates

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 04/23/2009 - 12:11.

I work very hard at getting all my cpe hours in before the beginning of the new year and "tax season". I basically paid for what would have been year's expense of CPE and it only counts for 4 months. A poor use of my time and money. How is the stated ed department going to measure those 4 months? Would it not have made more sense to start the requirements 1/1/10 to give some advance notice and room for planning for not only the CPAs but also the CPE providers?

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CPE requirements/new dates

Submitted by NYSSCPA (not verified) on Tue, 06/02/2009 - 17:21.

The Board of Regents is expected to adopt emergency regulations on June 22nd to implement the new law, and discussions with the staff of the State Education Department regarding conversion to calendar year CPE strongly indicate that the new continuing education regulations will include a provision that any acceptable continuing education credits earned between September 1, 2008 and December 31, 2008 may be credited toward the minimum contact hours required for the calendar year January 1, 2009 and ending on December 31, 2009. As soon as the new proposed regulations are published by the State Education Department, they will be posted on the homepage of the Society’s website.

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age, physical condition and cpe

Submitted by david ribet (not verified) on Sat, 03/14/2009 - 13:26.

as an 86 year old cpa, who has been a member of both the AICPA and the NYS Society since 1946 i have a comment about continuing CPE. I am a founding member of my CPA partnership, but no longer take active part in the practice. I do serve several individual clients who seek my knowledge, my experience particularly with tax and investment matters. I do prepare income tax returns for these individuals. I also serve as trustee for several family trusts.
I have requested exemption for my medical reasons, as that of my wife of 63 years. I have been advised that my request is not valid without a medical "letter".
I laugh when our newsletter is titled"trusted professional. I want to someday retire fully...but still be called my CPA. I do not think that after all the years my ethics will be questioned. Our society should request exemption from CPE requirements after a certain age.

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I feel that since you are an

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 04/30/2009 - 21:52.

I feel that since you are an 86 year old CPA, the CPE requirements should be mandated more heavily for you. A person of your age, 86, should have to take CPE because there have been substantial changes to the public accounting profession since 1946.

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Partner Training / CPE

Submitted by Herman (not verified) on Mon, 06/01/2009 - 15:10.

I think the CPE is a good thing.

As a public accounting senior on LI, I think that our partners (old and new) should have to continue training as CPAs. The seniors in my firm and I feel that some of our Partners do not know the updated audit methodology and make us do things the old way.
When new managers come in from larger firms and show us how to do things the new (FAS 5 / statistical sampling) way, we get review points from the Partner and Managers & that makes double work.

The new managers leave (the good ones anyway) and we are left holding the bag with no clear way to do things the proper way.

If they are all up to speed with CPE's, we will have uniform training and less open points and be more efficient.

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Age, Physical Condition and CPE

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 04/16/2009 - 16:49.

If you are still going to practice (give advice, prepare returns, etc.) then CPE should apply regardless of age. I think the real problem with the CPE is the depth of it - 24 credits in anything should be enough - not 40.

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Continuing Education...

Submitted by Walter Schmidt VSO CPA (not verified) on Wed, 04/15/2009 - 07:56.

Continuing Education...

As a 62 year old CPA who is also a Department of Veterans Affairs accredited Veteran Service Officer (hence the VSO designation), who has been a member of our Society for over 35 years, and who brings to the veteran services table his three-plus decades of accountancy, one thought on Savid's comment comes to mind.

I still am amazed at those practitioners -- both CPA and VSO, and regardless of age -- who continue to provide services yet are unaware of even the most significant of changes in the areas in which they provide those services.

--- Regards, Walt Schmidt, VSO CPA

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Continuing Education

Submitted by Paul Bulzacchelli (not verified) on Thu, 04/16/2009 - 16:52.

My experience, after almost 30 years as a CPA, is that outside of public accounting firms, most CPAs do not take all the CPE required. This is somewhat less true in tax where until recently compared to audit, there have been constant changes.

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Continuing Education

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 04/17/2009 - 08:55.

But that new state law will require these CPAs even in industry will have to take CPE. It will be required statutorily.

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new CPE rules

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 04/23/2009 - 10:25.

If someone who has attained their CPA in their past life is now working in a public (i.e. audited) company, is not claiming CPA qualification in relation to their job, is doing accounting related tasks limited to a specific topic that is their job assignment, and is keeping up with that topic in order to keep employed successfully (and pass the external audit), why should they have to sign up for 40 hours of costly CPE every year? This sounds like a scheme to increase NYS revenue.

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